We've had some negative experiences with donation sites such as Patreon and SubscribeStar. We're currently evaluating if we want to traverse that path again or not. We'll keep you updated on that front if we do decide to re-enter that territory. For now, we just want everyone to enjoy our work. :-)
Well for the moment I'll re-buy each update so hopefully that helps some. Also I realize I can donate more if I wish to do so. I'm really enjoying it so far, so thank you.
There's a lot of pressure that goes along with taking monthly donations. I felt persistent guilt when I wasn't working which means I was pushing myself to work 12+ hours a day. Many developers do the opposite, they know they have a monthly guaranteed payment coming so they lax on work. It also inspires developers to never complete a project. When I announced Avalon would be complete, 30% of my Patrons dropped support. It still took me four or five months to complete it too. There are some developers that stretch out their releases for months just to keep a project in production.
It's not that it's inherently a bad system but it certainly has its pros and cons. Selling my product when I complete milestones feels more natural. I can work at my own pace and I get rewarded for accomplishments which feels more gratifying. It allows people to pay for a tangible product instead of simply having faith in the artist and donating based on the artist's previous work and their promises.
The major reason though is probably that I have a difficult time with jealousy. I have a bad habit of comparing my numbers with other artists in the community and I get extremely depressed when I'm significantly less popular than others. It's something I'm trying to work on but currently my sin is envy.
Hey... I have considered the same thing many times. Getting paid monthly and only releasing every 3rd month . BUT... I work my ass off every night and every weekend week after week and even though I don't release an update each month I feel I have worked for it. It is up to patrons to sponsor or not, we as devs do not force anyone in fact I am so grateful that I do have fans for my games.
Your last comment regarding jealousy. Although I don't agree that it's jealousy but rather a fear of feeling rejected. I have those. I look at games that released this year and they patron support numbers are 5 no 10 times more than what i have to show for 3.5yrs of doing this. I have thought about stopping 4 times since bringing out my latest game. 7 times when i did RTP my previous game. NO it's just feeling depressed cause we both know how hard we work at it and our products are worth it. Unfortunately most players want easy fap games with non existing stories not something that actually has a story with character arcs. Now and Then game is prime example. As much as I shouldn't say it as a dev, i am little jealous of iLS for writing such an amazing story, yet he gets way less support than either of us.
SO... relish in the support you do have and keep going forward and ask you players if they mind paying monthly and having to wait for an update. I have a feeling 95% would say they don't mind ( i have actually asked my patrons about this yrs ago). In patron you can always choose the option for players to pay per project..
And trust me you have nothing to worry about, your games are super good.
Hey, I played chapet 1 and liked it a lot, now I downloaded chap 2 but it's asking for permission to access all files in my phone. Can you explain to my why?
I've seen that in a few VNs I've downloaded on my android device as well. I have no idea why it would request access to files on your phone. A Petal Among Thorns has no programming inside of it that interferes with anything outside of it.
I asked around about this. I outsource my Android build to a professional porter. Apparently it asks for permission to access your device in order to save the game in a way that makes that save accessible to future releases. That's what I gathered, at least. Sorry for the confusion.
Nice and hot. This game is not like other ones that like copy of each other. Fresh story with perfectly written characters. Waiting for a next chapter. Donation was paid with gratitude. Thank you, Lockheart!
I do have the kinks mostly planned out. I'm not looking to do anything overly extreme. We'll experiment with toys in the sequel if I get to there. Right now we're building up the sexual content slowly between the MC and Petal. I am open to suggestions if you join my Discord.
I'm releasing the second chapter of A Petal Among Thorns right now. :-)
I did play with the idea of that. However, if I were to give that option, I'd basically have to make the game twice. Once where MC is dom and Petal is sub, and again where MC is sub and Petal is dom. And while that might not sound so bad because there's only Petal in the game, it would make certain plot elements later not work. This is going to lean more into femdom as Petal will be the one moving the sexual content forward. But there will be optional content where she pushes MC to be the dom as when she asked him to reenact the sexual interaction she witnessed between him and her mother.
This is sort of experimental for me. I'm not sure if enough people are going to want a femdom game like this so it may flop. But I enjoy making it so it's worth it either way. I'll try to take polls to find out what kinks are the most popular and try to feature those more elaborately.
That's cool. I like the sound of "toys in the sequel" , so I really hope it gets there, especially if it stays with Petal in charge. Does that mean there is a chance for some strapon scenes if we do get a sequel?
We'll see. It depends on how the story evolves and grows. I don't know if a strapon would match the characters at this point but perhaps later on it would fit in just fine. One step at a time. :-)
TBH, I don't at all get the impression that Petal is interested in being a dom or taking on the male role. Everything I've seen her say and do is focused on building her confidence and exploring her feelings as a woman; she clearly loves being feminine.
I really liked how Petal is pushing the MC into reenacting. I now hope she has seen even more sexual interaction--and we learn of this in the coming week. Her pushing him seems very reasonable, based upon his built in reluctance. She has to make him see through it and let him know she wants what only he can give her.
You are the best at giving us a peek at their thoughts, and seeing that these two are anxious but inching closer to being truly and deeply in love. And heck, rules are made to be broken, or amended, right?
Well, I have just given my credit card to Itch because of you, Lockheart. I will be reimbursing you here, as your other sources are DQ'd. I have enjoyed and am enjoying a lot of AVNs, but you have somehow won me over with your unique stye of telling stories enough to give Itch my CC. I selfishly hope that you can continue to bring your amazing creations to us, your adoring fans, and that you *want* to do so, too.
Thank you, Paul! I am enjoying writing A Petal Among Thorns. I have a lot of plans for the future of the game. Many things will be revealed in the next release which is right around the corner. I appreciate your support. :-)
You'll need to be sure you've downloaded the Android version. It's an .apk file. I'll need more information on what isn't working if that isn't the problem. You're welcome to join my Discord and I can help you better. https://discord.gg/S6AtPA2
I should have this issue fixed with the next release. The current android build wasn't designed by my usual android porter. The next version should be and he's much more capable when creating these ports. I apologize.
The next release is a week or so away. It's very close.
I'm already hooked on the storyline and am awaiting more. This is building into fun and well planned story, and the accompanying visuals are so beautiful.
Thank you for your efforts, I can't wait for the next chapter!
I am greatly looking forward to more developments on all of your works, so far. You are one of the most creative content makers I've seen so far, putting together some very good works. I was upset when I went to subscribe on Subscribestar only to find you'd suspended that, but did manage to find you here. So, I guess I'll continue supporting you here, and hope you continue to develop your works! Thank you. :)
Thank you, Lord Ichijo! I'm in the middle of deciding where I want to go with my art so I'm pausing my support for now. I'm glad you're enjoying A Petal Among Thorns, I should have an update out sometime in August. I appreciate your support.
Lockheart, just stay as you are. I belive we all are greatly enjoying your stories. I have discovered Avalon by total coincidence and liked it after just only few screens. And when the story ended I loved it more than anything. It is definitely hard to tell story of recovery from such event and you did it greatly in funny but still serious way with focus on all characters and their motivations and backstories. Not everyone is bothered to develop all characters in their stories but you did. And then there is Penny - that character is absolutely hilarious and has huge potencial. I am happy she has her own story too. And now there is another promissing story. I mean I am happy like child in a candy store so the direction you are following now is definitely good for me :-)
Thank you for the kind praise, klm_luciano! I plan to continue telling my stories for as long as I'm able. This has not been an easy market to break into but I'm leaning on some helpful associates to point me in the right direction. Next year I should have a better idea of how to proceed. Meanwhile I'm going to continue with A Petal Among Thorns. No matter what happens, there should be no shortage of story content from me. :-)
Why does it say role play and customize when not long after it starts she is revealed to be your daughter? You might as well just point out that its father daughter incest if that's the story you are going for.
Incest is strictly forbidden on Patreon. If any game has incestuous content, the developer is liable to be suspended or outright removed from the Patreon platform, which could cost the developer what little support they might have. A Petal Among Thorns is about a middle aged man that brings a friend to a vacation retreat. You can apply whatever title you like to your friend. It's completely up to you and I, the developer, would never impede your freedoms to make whatever choices you want. :-)
Well if your going for that you have to change the story based on the players inputs. change the characters back story based on what the player puts as relation because i put in something and the dialog made no sense at all.
That's why I make them free after two weeks. Supporters get early access but I'd still like everyone to be able to play. The system I have in place is a nice compromise. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Lockheart, thank you for amazing work on your games. I really enjoyed Avalon and can’t wait to play Penny too. Do you consider publishing this game also on Steam?
I will probably publish A Petal Among Thorns on Steam after it's complete but that won't be at least until next year. I may start doing Steam Early Access one day but for now, I'm finishing products before releasing them. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed my work. Thank you for the praise!
Both the games made by this developer are of great graphics and really good writing. Don't take anyone's word though, support them and find out what it is like to be a part of a good team. Lockheart is up there with the best of the best developers! Hopefully you build the huge base of supporters that you work should have, and your kind of professionalism. Good luck!
Thank you, Hawkeye! Compliments this kind help keep me motivated to keep working hard. It's nice to know my work is enjoyable to experience. I appreciate the hefty praise and the support.
I not only enjoy your work, I like to learn while enjoying and your work has taken me to an entire new level. I also think there are others like myself whom are paying attention to the new level of games coming out, like your's . One thing is certain, you have my interest and I have no problem cheering you on the side, and supporting you along with others.
Lockheart has more than two games with great graphics and writing. ‘AVALON’ is a completed game. ‘PENNY for your thoughts’ and this game (A PETAL …) are still in development. Avalon is so immersive that it had me tearing up at times—I felt so connected to the people in the story. I am not doing justice to how much I was moved playing through Avalon.
Thank you, TJMoor. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed some of my work. There's lots to come in the future and I have big plans for both of my current stories. I appreciate the kind words, they help motivate me to keep working hard.
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Lockheart are you going to setup a Subscribestar by chance?
We've had some negative experiences with donation sites such as Patreon and SubscribeStar. We're currently evaluating if we want to traverse that path again or not. We'll keep you updated on that front if we do decide to re-enter that territory. For now, we just want everyone to enjoy our work. :-)
Well for the moment I'll re-buy each update so hopefully that helps some. Also I realize I can donate more if I wish to do so. I'm really enjoying it so far, so thank you.
What type of negative experience on Substar If i may ask? Substar doesn't work for everyone it seems but for some it's really great.
There's a lot of pressure that goes along with taking monthly donations. I felt persistent guilt when I wasn't working which means I was pushing myself to work 12+ hours a day. Many developers do the opposite, they know they have a monthly guaranteed payment coming so they lax on work. It also inspires developers to never complete a project. When I announced Avalon would be complete, 30% of my Patrons dropped support. It still took me four or five months to complete it too. There are some developers that stretch out their releases for months just to keep a project in production.
It's not that it's inherently a bad system but it certainly has its pros and cons. Selling my product when I complete milestones feels more natural. I can work at my own pace and I get rewarded for accomplishments which feels more gratifying. It allows people to pay for a tangible product instead of simply having faith in the artist and donating based on the artist's previous work and their promises.
The major reason though is probably that I have a difficult time with jealousy. I have a bad habit of comparing my numbers with other artists in the community and I get extremely depressed when I'm significantly less popular than others. It's something I'm trying to work on but currently my sin is envy.
Hey... I have considered the same thing many times. Getting paid monthly and only releasing every 3rd month . BUT... I work my ass off every night and every weekend week after week and even though I don't release an update each month I feel I have worked for it. It is up to patrons to sponsor or not, we as devs do not force anyone in fact I am so grateful that I do have fans for my games.
Your last comment regarding jealousy. Although I don't agree that it's jealousy but rather a fear of feeling rejected. I have those. I look at games that released this year and they patron support numbers are 5 no 10 times more than what i have to show for 3.5yrs of doing this. I have thought about stopping 4 times since bringing out my latest game. 7 times when i did RTP my previous game. NO it's just feeling depressed cause we both know how hard we work at it and our products are worth it. Unfortunately most players want easy fap games with non existing stories not something that actually has a story with character arcs. Now and Then game is prime example. As much as I shouldn't say it as a dev, i am little jealous of iLS for writing such an amazing story, yet he gets way less support than either of us.
SO... relish in the support you do have and keep going forward and ask you players if they mind paying monthly and having to wait for an update. I have a feeling 95% would say they don't mind ( i have actually asked my patrons about this yrs ago). In patron you can always choose the option for players to pay per project..
And trust me you have nothing to worry about, your games are super good.
Hey, I played chapet 1 and liked it a lot, now I downloaded chap 2 but it's asking for permission to access all files in my phone. Can you explain to my why?
I've seen that in a few VNs I've downloaded on my android device as well. I have no idea why it would request access to files on your phone. A Petal Among Thorns has no programming inside of it that interferes with anything outside of it.
I asked around about this. I outsource my Android build to a professional porter. Apparently it asks for permission to access your device in order to save the game in a way that makes that save accessible to future releases. That's what I gathered, at least. Sorry for the confusion.
Dont worry, thank u so much for answering :)
Yeah, Android's permissions aren't very granular. :(
Nice and hot. This game is not like other ones that like copy of each other. Fresh story with perfectly written characters. Waiting for a next chapter. Donation was paid with gratitude. Thank you, Lockheart!
Can not wait for the next release. Oh the wait!!
Hi! I love the setup and concept so far.
I was just wondering if I could ask how kinky you are planning to make this game? What sort of kinks are you planning and are you open to suggestions?
I do have the kinks mostly planned out. I'm not looking to do anything overly extreme. We'll experiment with toys in the sequel if I get to there. Right now we're building up the sexual content slowly between the MC and Petal. I am open to suggestions if you join my Discord.
I'm releasing the second chapter of A Petal Among Thorns right now. :-)
OK, cool. Thanks for your quick reply.
I was just wondering if the characters would both have the opportunity to be sub and dom, or possibly even active and receptive.
I did play with the idea of that. However, if I were to give that option, I'd basically have to make the game twice. Once where MC is dom and Petal is sub, and again where MC is sub and Petal is dom. And while that might not sound so bad because there's only Petal in the game, it would make certain plot elements later not work. This is going to lean more into femdom as Petal will be the one moving the sexual content forward. But there will be optional content where she pushes MC to be the dom as when she asked him to reenact the sexual interaction she witnessed between him and her mother.
This is sort of experimental for me. I'm not sure if enough people are going to want a femdom game like this so it may flop. But I enjoy making it so it's worth it either way. I'll try to take polls to find out what kinks are the most popular and try to feature those more elaborately.
That's cool. I like the sound of "toys in the sequel" , so I really hope it gets there, especially if it stays with Petal in charge. Does that mean there is a chance for some strapon scenes if we do get a sequel?
We'll see. It depends on how the story evolves and grows. I don't know if a strapon would match the characters at this point but perhaps later on it would fit in just fine. One step at a time. :-)
TBH, I don't at all get the impression that Petal is interested in being a dom or taking on the male role. Everything I've seen her say and do is focused on building her confidence and exploring her feelings as a woman; she clearly loves being feminine.
I really liked how Petal is pushing the MC into reenacting. I now hope she has seen even more sexual interaction--and we learn of this in the coming week. Her pushing him seems very reasonable, based upon his built in reluctance. She has to make him see through it and let him know she wants what only he can give her.
You are the best at giving us a peek at their thoughts, and seeing that these two are anxious but inching closer to being truly and deeply in love. And heck, rules are made to be broken, or amended, right?
just got held back im right back in the 9th grade... how do I go about telling my mother this? lord im so scared to tell her.
This might help you feel better. :-)
What a place to learn where my dad took his I'm not crazy youre the one thats crazy line.
Well, I have just given my credit card to Itch because of you, Lockheart. I will be reimbursing you here, as your other sources are DQ'd. I have enjoyed and am enjoying a lot of AVNs, but you have somehow won me over with your unique stye of telling stories enough to give Itch my CC. I selfishly hope that you can continue to bring your amazing creations to us, your adoring fans, and that you *want* to do so, too.
Thank you, Paul! I am enjoying writing A Petal Among Thorns. I have a lot of plans for the future of the game. Many things will be revealed in the next release which is right around the corner. I appreciate your support. :-)
I've downloaded and extracted the file but I can't run it on android. Am I not doing something right?
You'll need to be sure you've downloaded the Android version. It's an .apk file. I'll need more information on what isn't working if that isn't the problem. You're welcome to join my Discord and I can help you better. https://discord.gg/S6AtPA2
love the music
I should have this issue fixed with the next release. The current android build wasn't designed by my usual android porter. The next version should be and he's much more capable when creating these ports. I apologize.
The next release is a week or so away. It's very close.
I'm already hooked on the storyline and am awaiting more. This is building into fun and well planned story, and the accompanying visuals are so beautiful.
Thank you for your efforts, I can't wait for the next chapter!
I am greatly looking forward to more developments on all of your works, so far. You are one of the most creative content makers I've seen so far, putting together some very good works. I was upset when I went to subscribe on Subscribestar only to find you'd suspended that, but did manage to find you here. So, I guess I'll continue supporting you here, and hope you continue to develop your works! Thank you. :)
Thank you, Lord Ichijo! I'm in the middle of deciding where I want to go with my art so I'm pausing my support for now. I'm glad you're enjoying A Petal Among Thorns, I should have an update out sometime in August. I appreciate your support.
Lockheart, just stay as you are. I belive we all are greatly enjoying your stories. I have discovered Avalon by total coincidence and liked it after just only few screens. And when the story ended I loved it more than anything. It is definitely hard to tell story of recovery from such event and you did it greatly in funny but still serious way with focus on all characters and their motivations and backstories. Not everyone is bothered to develop all characters in their stories but you did. And then there is Penny - that character is absolutely hilarious and has huge potencial. I am happy she has her own story too. And now there is another promissing story. I mean I am happy like child in a candy store so the direction you are following now is definitely good for me :-)
Thank you for many hours of pure joy.
Thank you for the kind praise, klm_luciano! I plan to continue telling my stories for as long as I'm able. This has not been an easy market to break into but I'm leaning on some helpful associates to point me in the right direction. Next year I should have a better idea of how to proceed. Meanwhile I'm going to continue with A Petal Among Thorns. No matter what happens, there should be no shortage of story content from me. :-)
Excelent game, i love the petal
Petal is free. FREE. I loved chap 1 and can't wait for updates. Great characters. Great dialog. Just the usual from Lockheart though.
From this day forward, I will stop freeloading your work.
Why does it say role play and customize when not long after it starts she is revealed to be your daughter? You might as well just point out that its father daughter incest if that's the story you are going for.
Incest is strictly forbidden on Patreon. If any game has incestuous content, the developer is liable to be suspended or outright removed from the Patreon platform, which could cost the developer what little support they might have. A Petal Among Thorns is about a middle aged man that brings a friend to a vacation retreat. You can apply whatever title you like to your friend. It's completely up to you and I, the developer, would never impede your freedoms to make whatever choices you want. :-)
Well if your going for that you have to change the story based on the players inputs. change the characters back story based on what the player puts as relation because i put in something and the dialog made no sense at all.
Can't wait for this to go further, will likely pay once it's complete, and I rarely buy these things
That's why I make them free after two weeks. Supporters get early access but I'd still like everyone to be able to play. The system I have in place is a nice compromise. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Lockheart, thank you for amazing work on your games. I really enjoyed Avalon and can’t wait to play Penny too. Do you consider publishing this game also on Steam?
I will probably publish A Petal Among Thorns on Steam after it's complete but that won't be at least until next year. I may start doing Steam Early Access one day but for now, I'm finishing products before releasing them. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed my work. Thank you for the praise!
Both the games made by this developer are of great graphics and really good writing. Don't take anyone's word though, support them and find out what it is like to be a part of a good team.
Lockheart is up there with the best of the best developers! Hopefully you build the huge base of supporters that you work should have, and your kind of professionalism. Good luck!
Thank you, Hawkeye! Compliments this kind help keep me motivated to keep working hard. It's nice to know my work is enjoyable to experience. I appreciate the hefty praise and the support.
I not only enjoy your work, I like to learn while enjoying and your work has taken me to an entire new level. I also think there are others like myself whom are paying attention to the new level of games coming out, like your's . One thing is certain, you have my interest and I have no problem cheering you on the side, and supporting you along with others.
Lockheart has more than two games with great graphics and writing. ‘AVALON’ is a completed game. ‘PENNY for your thoughts’ and this game (A PETAL …) are still in development. Avalon is so immersive that it had me tearing up at times—I felt so connected to the people in the story. I am not doing justice to how much I was moved playing through Avalon.
I do agree with everything else you wrote.
Thank you, TJMoor. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed some of my work. There's lots to come in the future and I have big plans for both of my current stories. I appreciate the kind words, they help motivate me to keep working hard.
I agree with this wholeheartedly.
You got me hooked! I must have more of this adorable and delectable lady!
I'll certainly be providing more. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Thank you, Taellosse!
Lockheart back at it again, indulging us with another great game. You're spoiling us.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I'm glad you're excited to try it. Let me know what you think when you complete it. I'll keep working hard for sure! :-)