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I just noticed that the status on the main page here still says "in development", you may want to change that to "released". Some potential customers may be turned off if they think it is in early access.

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Thank you! I'll get that fixed up. 

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Thank you, Applesaucefan! Steam is a setback, but not an ending. A Moment of Bliss, the sequel to APAT, is still going to be amazing. I appreciate your support. 

Lockheart, I have two questions for you, the first is a suggestion for the promotion of your game, why don't you add A Petal Among Thorns on Google Play Store only with Censorship, and the uncensored version players download here, that it would be really good for your game, and the second question is is the game going to be on steam?

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Steam outright rejected the game without the possibility of resubmission. A Petal Among Thorns will not be coming to Steam. The Google Play store idea is an intriguing one, but I haven't seen anyone else do that. I'd imagine there might be some complication to that. 

You're certainly welcome to come talk to me more elaborately on Discord. I'm usually around. 

okay okay understand, one more question for you, the game will soon have other languages like "French, Japanese, Italian and Portuguese" a point that would be nice for your game.

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best 20$ i have ever spent... keep up the great stories!!

I appreciate the support. Thank you

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Sad to hear steam screwed you over but thankfully I am able to get your game here.

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Great game, 5/5
Touching story, Petal is cute, story is well written.
Well worth the money.
Would have rate it earlier, if i didn't forget.  ^^'

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Absolutely top tier. I was happy to see that the relationship with Petal will continue, anything else would be heart breaking. Well done!

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As I promised a few days ago, here I am with a purchase and a little bonus, keep up the good work!!

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Unfortunately this game does not work correctly on macOS Monterey (12.1) Apple Silicon. It looks to be an error within Ren'Py

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Amazing!

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Is it possible for your heart to have an orgasm? Because holy shit, even only going to Chapter 4, that was quite possibly the best romance and sex game I have ever played. I'm like actually in love with Petal now.


You're fucking awesome.

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Hey Lockheart ..im very enjoy your A PETAL AMONG THORNS ..btw i wonder why you put a (Final) on chapter 5 isn't the last up date on this game? If it's true so im sadÓ╭╮Ò

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This story continues in the sequel which will be titled A Moment of Bliss. It will be a more ambitious endeavor with more mechanics and more love interests. It will be a few months before I have anything to present though. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed A Petal Among Thorns. Petal will return. :-)

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Good news for me thanks..gudluck in your progress and have a nice day。◕‿◕。

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Hello, really interested in this game but am confused as I am fairly new to Itch.io.  If I buy the Chapter 5 Final does that also come with the other chapters in the download?  Thanks! Looking forward to trying out your work.  Just picked up Avalon as I figure that is the place to start.

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Yes, Chapter Five includes all chapters. You're welcome to pick up Chapter Four (which includes all previous chapters) if you want to test it out first. Thank you for your support! 

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Thank you!  Ahh for the price you are offering it on sale it is worth it just to support what you are doing.  I appreciate the info.

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Just finished and I got say well done only thing small small nit pick tho petal seems to get not being truthful while mc doesn't quite have same opp but still u made great game and I can't wait for next chapter 

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$2.99 isn't any more than what I have paid in the past for a Visual Novelette that had less quality and a mediocre storyline. After reading chapters 1-4 I was planning on donating $5.00 anyways ($1.00 a chapter seemed fair) because it was so good, I mean really good. Heck who am I fooling "Petal Among Thorns" is the best by far. But hey now I can get the whole novelette for less than $5.00. AWESOME! You have some talent my friend. I only wish this story went on forever. I love it. Great work! Great work! Great work!

Thank you, blackboxzero! The story will continue in A Moment of Bliss. There's still a lot more to tell, and a lot more content to come. I appreciate your support.

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When will the story about Bliss commence? I know you're also working in the Penny story so my question is curiosity driven by the allure of this family harem development.  Kind of like Sisterly Lust but WAY better. I'm hoping for similar girl/girl options with the mom and other sisters. Which assumes there'd also be a Moon path/story.  Btw...your ability to suggest backstory through character dialogue hints is extraordinary! The mom's story seems to want to dovetail into a happy ending for all and I eagerly anticipate that reveal. Not saying more about my suspicions for fear of being a spoiler.  Great work friend...I will support you!

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Thank you, GhostCherokee! I've already started working on Bliss's game, but it will be a few months before I have anything to show. We'll have at least one extra love interest in A Moment of Bliss. It won't be Moon though. We're going to save her story for later. I appreciate your support! 

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I'm working my way through the current version of Penny.  Another thing you're doing here that is excellent is the associated story lines.  You're a cut above the other dev's I've been exposed to.  I only got interested in AVN's about 3 or 4 months ago.  I've been through about 70 now... and while there are some very quality pieces of work out there... you're significantly more sophisticated.  It also seems obvious that English is a first language for you.... or at least a second language.  Not just for the ability to provide a more colloquial dialogue but the more elegant handling of speech.  I am actually assisting with the dev's of Lust Academy helping them by going through their dialogue and 'Americanizing' it.  Their work is good graphically and I like the premise of the story... it has great potential.  But the dialogue... like most Russian developed work... is horrible.  My sense of this genre is that it is still relatively young and it has so much exciting potential if it is produced by real artists. ... with real resources.  It should not take years to produce completed versions of stories and I am confident that this will evolve rapidly once the real potential is experienced and the audience grows.  I am going to go through my Patreon subscriptions and wean some of them off because I started supporting some when I was first getting into AVN's.  I have a much better sense of which dev's are really deserving support.  Once that's done I'll increase my support.  I am really impressed by your work.

Thank you, GhostCherokee. You're certainly correct, this industry is still growing. I've been told there should be a rather big boom in popularity for this market soon. I am a native English speaker, and I've developed my writing and rendering skills considerably over the last few years. Unfortunately, I haven't noticed writing quality or graphics quality having a large influence on the success of a visual novel. There are also large entities working against this industry. It will be interesting to see how things progress over the next few years. 

One main reason that some novels are in development forever is because once you finish a novel, you'll lost an estimated 30% of your patrons. With Steam picking up popularity for visual novels, we may see a shift from relying on patronage to more developers trying to crank out novels to get more Steam sales. Another aspect in the industry that will be interesting to watch unfold. 

I'm sure glad you're enjoying my work! And, of course, I always appreciate support. I submit a Progress Report to my Patrons every other week, so you'll always know where I'm at with my current build. Be sure to stop by the Discord. We have an incredible community there. 

The paradigm of this genre depending on subscriptions is, as you know, a detriment to the quality of the product.  The slow grind, for the sake of sub retention, defines structure and defeats the art.  The Steam model would be far superior because it allows for quality to define income.  I'd gladly pay more for better product and thus look forward to a given developer's work.  And that model doesn't destroy the subscription model as developers could still have their own 'clubs' where subscribers could receive the latest work free or at a discount.  The difference is that the developer can then produce his/her work according to an artful vision rather than a structured economy.

You say that you expect some growth in the market and, on that point, I'm a little surprised that we haven't seen a real investment from the porn industry at large to see this genre fueled.  I see it happening a little... but my sense is that we're on the cusp of something much larger emerging.

I completed the latest version of Penny and have some thoughts to share on it.  Female protagonists present a challenge based on their sexuality.  You, apparently by nature, want to wrestle with basic ethical and moral arguments.  That's understandable when dealing with topics like incest and the social mores associated.  (And that's not even diving into the questions related such as the relevant influences in childhood sexual development.)  Having said that, with Penny there's a number of issues in the story that are challenging and that illustrate a larger matter with female pro's.  Penny appears to be compelled to committed monogamy due to her morals and ethics.  That limits, to a large degree, the amount of sexual encounters that fit in the story's development.  There are 'hints' thus far in the story of other potential sexual content developments but they are thin, so far, and seemingly extraneous to the main story line.  So I am curious to see how that will be developed.   And one question of female pro's is how to develop that engaging sexual content (that is required to appeal to the audience these AVNs are directed at) unless she is, for the sake of discussion, a nymphomaniac.... or at least, per some applied lens, appears to be.  And it seems, based on the kinds of moral issues you want to address, there is some conundrum of opposing constructs there.  I am married to a bisexual woman who, interestingly enough, is only interested in me as far as male encounters are concerned, but who is really horny to have lots of experiences with other women.  Consequently, we don't fit very well in the mainstream swinger paradigm, at least not without some challenge, because it is, to large extent, male driven.  Since I'm mostly a voyeur my wife and I fit together well, yet have some challenges whereas finding adventures for her.  This is relevant as it highlights the difference in female sexuality and relates the general matter of how women characters are perceived.  But the point about how to use female pro's in AVNs and keep them 'pervy' is challenging indeed.  So, it will be interesting to see how Penny develops.

I'm currently taking a poll to see if my Patrons want me to continue working on Penny's game or focus on A Moment of Bliss. You're not wrong, it would be tricky to make Penny's game work in this market. Maybe even impossible. It's predominantly males who play these games, and female protagonist games don't tend to do as well. I've had some clever ideas, but I doubt they are clever enough to propel Penny's game to even moderate success. Still, I am very passionate about Penny and I would love to work with her more. 

You're welcome to join my Discord to chat more about it with me. I'm active there, and so is the community I've built. :-)

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Come on man it's a log time.relese the update....

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I feel that. Trying to create this last Chapter has been rough on me too. 

I'm going to try to have a build out the beginning of next month.  I appreciate your patience. 

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ok man we know you're doing it.

@Lockheart I don't know if the ping is necessary or flat out useless, but I'm new here and I just wanted to ask a question.

So, I started playing the game and I noticed an option called Video HWA, and I was wondering what does that work for? There are a few more settings I don't quite understand, but this is the one I'm most concerned about.

It's a Hardware Accelerator on / off switch. If you're having trouble running the game, you can turn that to potentially fix the issue. 

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@Lockheart hey man ,

I played your game for a while now on Android and there is one major bug that really annoyed me for a while. When set the character names and so on in the beginning all works fine but when you save and close the game and you start it new after a while. Then all settings are deleted and your characters will named by default and allso the relationship is landlord and so on. Even if you go in to the menu and set them new they will not change. Only way is to start a new game and skip everything to the point where you left of . But all in all your game is really awesome so far . Can't wait for the next update 😊 

PS: I am playing on a One plus 7 pro 

I'd love to help but I'll be able to assist you a lot better on Discord. Can you join my Discord

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Can't wait for the next update. Genuinely one of the best Visual Novels I've played.

Why does it ask me for permission to access all the files on the device?????? (in android btw)

Android asks for your permission to access files so it can look for save files from previous builds. 

oh that makes sense hehe  thanks
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A real diamond in the rough! Everything just clicked. Maybe we were meant to each other????

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Fantastic story. You can bet your left nut I'll be here for all your future projects.

does it include chapter 1,  2 and 3?

Yes, every release has all previous Chapters.

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Wow! All 4 chapters fits in 1 gb?! Great job! The game is very good. 

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Update please bro

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Chapter 5 should be out around the end of February or early March. :-)

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Very large time shit

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bruh the game is listed for free... You want more frequent updates then support the creator and chip in if You don't like it then move on.

My man!

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Great story so far, very engaging. I played Chapter 1 a while ago and really enjoyed the story. Now I've finally been able to pick it back up again and I'm working my way through the other chapters.

I would like to bring up that in chapter 2 (and possibly more, I haven't gotten that far yet), the game seems to be mixing up my relationship title to Petal with Rose/Chuck's father. For example, if I refer to myself as Petal's godfather, it refers to Rose's father as "godfather". Petal also refers to me as "father", but only in certain lines. This didn't seem intentional and I figured I'd let you know.

I'd love to help. It's much easier for me to assist you on Discord. You can get there through this link: Discord

It sounds like you have an older version of the game. The current build is 4.0.6 and it should have taken care of those issues. Can you tell me what version you're playing? 

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HOLY GOD!!

Chapter 4...Damn. I will definitely be investing to you hard work. Can't wait for more.

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I understand if it makes you uncomfortable. It is a scary message. Unfortunately Android isn't as easy to work with as Windows or Mac. In order to move your saves from one build to another, the APK needs access to your files. Otherwise all the saves you make from one build won't carry over to the next because the game can't locate the saves because they don't have access to your files. It's a game built in Ren'Py, it doesn't collect any information or transmit any data. It's nothing malicious but if it makes you uncomfortable, I recommend playing on PC. 

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O.M.G. what a ending !!! i just hope she's on the *(  THE PILL )* after that i had a feeling something like that would happen, but the teasing a writing the story was a nice touch, can wait to see how you top this chapter and what a good build up to it, not just here it is come get it, PUNN INTEDED !!! all i can say is good writing and WOOWWW !!!

Thank you. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it. I'm working extra hard on the last Chapter and then the next game should be even wilder. 

I downloaded v.4.0.5 and it launches but I can't seem to access the new chapter/s. What am I doing wrong

Please contact me on my Discord for assistance. I can't diagnose from here. I need some information to help you proceed. https://discord.gg/S6AtPA2

I seem to be unable to change her from addressing me as "Guardian"

Yeah I am having the same issue, the customisation of the names and relationships isn't working?!

Are you on Android and have you started from a saved point? 

Same here, and yes. Was fine till I saved now it is default and I cannot change it.

Please contact me on my Discord for assistance. I can't diagnose from here. I need some information to help you proceed. https://discord.gg/S6AtPA2

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Excellent chapter. I look forward to the final one and also seeing Bliss in action though I hope when you do Moment of Bliss that Petal isn't totally left behind. She is far too adorable. I'd love to see the relationship with her continue even after the vacation is over. Well done

Petal will still be a big part of Chester's life. That will never change.  :-)

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You should really charge more for your work. Just finished Chapter 4 and it's incredible. The renders, the animations, the music... amazing.  And good to know that your Patreon is back up again! 

I can't download the new version. It takes me to the itch.io homepage when I attempt to pay.

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I can't replicate the error. Perhaps you could try using a different browser? If it's an issue with itch.io, you'll have to contact them to get it resolved. I only post my work here,  I don't operate the site. I'm sorry you're having trouble. :-/

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It seems like a VPN was causing an issue. Disconnected from the VPN, and the site behaved correctly. Thanks for the reply.

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I would love a scene where Petal pee for her daddy. No bizzare but loving scene where hw takes on hes daughters pee would be worth many bucks. Anyhow, a great piece all trough and keep it coming.

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Please give the discord link to join

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You really have a nice game. When next update is coming  make it more faster. Make the sex low and make the romantic scene high.

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So I am just wondering am I the only one who doesn't like moon personality she comes off really cold and unlikeable it just I would think it a bit better if wasn't arrogance/ mean

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Moon will give us an additional perspective on the MC. Her game will be the third in the series. While I'm confident in my ability to change your mind about her if you play Over the Moon, I have divided the series into three parts because they're three separate styles. If there's a particular style you dislike, you can avoid it without missing the other styles from the other games. Thank you for playing. 

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sorry I forgot there name for a minute I actually talking about bliss not moon I just think that she really mean in video chat with any understanding or tenderness not that she as kind as petal but a little caring or at least understand could made a bit better 

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Bliss is a lot like Dallas. Tough on the outside, sweet on the inside. She's a bit of a tomboy. She'll play an important role in helping Chester grow his character. Again, you might not like her but that's why I'm splitting the games up. I bet if you give her a chance though, you'll enjoy her personality. She's going to be a lot of fun. 

so what saying is we just haven't got chance to see her softer side cuz I got say video call did run me a bit the wrong in that it seemed that had no understanding what what motivation to give a better quality of life which I don't know like I said it kinda rub the wrong way 

Um having issues finding discord u got a link? 

Here you go.

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Very interesting choice to really deep-dive into the dynamic of this relationship. The character of Chuck was an unexpected addition, really not splitting hairs with his purpose in the story lol. I think it might have been cool to give Petal a real reason to be so self-concious, she really gives off "excessively hot nerd that nobody notices for some reason in a rom-com" vibes. Like an eating disorder could have created an interesting dialogue. Just would have helped me with my immersion a little, but I get that she has to be super hot for the purposes of the game. The fact that you stare the main issue of the taboo relationship so starkly in the face was enough to get my approval though. Great work!

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This game is amazing, what are the chances of getting some femdom feminization scenes?

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Hey tproject,

We won't be touching on feminization. A Petal Among Thorns does have light femdom but not the traditional kind. A Moment of Bliss will have heavier elements of femdom. I can't explain too much for spoiler reasons but Bliss is definitely more intense. 

Thanks for your support!

That's all cool. I'm not great with visuals, but if I build the narrative, would you be willing to collaborate on a project? I was really impressed with the interactivity. (I'm teaching myself how to use the Ren'Py engine right now, actually

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Starting a project like this is a big commitment but it can be extremely rewarding. I certainly encourage giving it a try. Unfortunately, I have years worth of projects that I'm invested in so I won't be looking for any partnerships for a while. With all the tools available today though, you can learn how to construct exceptional visuals. I personally use Daz for all my posing and animating. I wish you luck in your endeavors. 

Thank you so much for your time I'll look into Daz. I'm excited to see what you release in the future!

Um how hard to make characters and such? I suck and art mostly but I kind wish I sucked at it less

It's like any other skill. The more you do it, the better you'll get at it. It's much more possible than it seems at first but it does take practice. 

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